Networking, Service and Karma
In this episode Kathy and Michelle talk about how powerful helping others can be, not only for the people we help, but for ourselves as that good karma comes back to us magnified. We talk a little about how to handle negativity, leveraging that buffer zone between stimulus and response, and how helping just one person can have a compounding effect in our lives. Michelle shares how that karma came back to her in the form of a new laptop she never even asked for. Take a listen, and this week find ways of expanding your influence and karma by being of service to your network!
Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:00 Start your week smiling with your friends, Kathy’s aunt and Michelle Ette. It’s time to get ready for some weekly motivation with WP Motivate.
Speaker 1 00:00:13 Happy Friday, Kathy.
Speaker 2 00:00:16 Happy Friday. Michelle, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 00:00:19 I’m doing okay. Always better after you and I have a chance to connect. I’m glad that this is, this is like the best way to end a week is always, I know we say this all the time, it’s like listen to the WP Motivate podcast and listen to Michelle and Kathy just talk about how wonderful each other is. But it’s true, like you just like, help me get to the end of my week with a smile on my face. And no matter how stressful work is, no matter how stressful life is, you know, just ha being able to look into your happy face on a Friday and commiserate a little bit before the show about what’s going on in our lives, but also just find the things to be positive about and motivational and all that. I just love it. So thank you.
Speaker 2 00:00:57 I am happy to be here, , and yes, this, this, it’s kind of like, like J just wraps up my week no matter what’s in the box, it’s got a pretty wrapper and a nice bow on it and I can live with that. So , no matter
Speaker 1 00:01:10 What happens, I’m right there with you on that. Exactly. . Exactly. Oh my goodness. You had a great idea about a topic for today. So why don’t you kind of talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 00:01:20 Yeah, so I just, I listen, you know, I go for walks with my dogs and I listen to things and sometimes like I’m doing just like tedious work, so I’ll put something on in the background to listen to cuz I know I’m just doing a little thing and I just cooking dinner here. I’ve headphones are in and I am listening to something that helps me with mindset and makes me think about things differently. And I started listening to this guy was talking about how important it is to be of service to the relationships in your life because whatever you put into your relationships comes back to you. Mm-hmm. . And I found that to be very true. You know, my husband and I used to talk a lot about how everything in your life is a relationship. You have a relationship if you’re, all you’re chasing is money, you still have a relationship with money.
Speaker 2 00:02:09 You want a relationship like a marriage, it’s a relationship. People at work, kids, you’ve got relationships. So you are in relationship to everything in your life. And so this guy’s talking about relationships and how he is managing his network of people in order to not like try to get something from them. Like, you know, psychic vampires. He is trying to push energy out and be of service to other people. So he looks at somebody who’s in his network and says, what, how can I be of service to them through my network? Who can I get connected? Like how can I connect person A to person B in a way that makes sense to mm-hmm. both of them so that it’s mutually beneficial. And he’s like, I don’t do it because I’m trying to make money. I’m doing it to be of service because I know the more that I make value and those connections with other people, that’s gonna come back to me tenfold. Value is gonna show up to me. And I was just like, maybe chopping carrots or something. I was just like, yes, exactly that.
Speaker 1 00:03:14 And I’m like,
Speaker 2 00:03:15 That’s what Michelle does. And I started thinking about some of the stuff you do in the community and I’m like, you are constantly, I watched you in Phoenix with this, with the WordPress community there, . Like, I had a front row seat to it of how you try to find ways to be of service, ways to connect other people, uh, this is what you do. And so I started thinking about like with this, he was talking about and what you do and you know, I kind of do it too. I’m always kind of, you do for ways to mm-hmm. help support people of like, oh, well, you know, person in cadence, community, you need to talk to this person. Mm-hmm. mm-hmm. and just make connections. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:03:52 , you’re always about elevating people and I love that.
Speaker 2 00:03:56 So I try to do, and it’s what you try to do and I just felt like this, I just feel really motivated by this whole idea of what you put out comes back to you. Mm-hmm. . And I see it all the time.
Speaker 1 00:04:07 I, I I’m not gonna, I’m gonna absolutely slaughter this analogy, but I heard at one point in time, like, think about negative. Like, let’s look at the opposite for a second. Right? So negative thoughts and neg and negativity out into the universe. If I take a drop of poison and I put it in the ocean, nobody’s getting poisoned. If I take a drop of poison and I put it in a cup of water, I may die. If I drink it, I may get sick if I drink it or I may just be like, Ugh, that tasted terrible. Cuz of the several things are, it’s dependent on several things. So how much am I adding? So how much negativity am I putting out there? Right? So even the weakest poison, if it’s a cup full, is not gonna be good. And then how strong is the poison as the other?
Speaker 1 00:04:53 So I put a drop of the most horrific poison in a cup cuz it’s the strongest, most negative, most heinous thing and I’m still gonna die from it, even if it’s just a draw. So your negativity out into the world will either kind of dis dissipate cuz it’s something brief and like somebody cuts you off in traffic and you’re like, rah, ra ra. You know, like that’s, it affects you in the moment, but it doesn’t affect your overall outlook and things like that. But if I took on that, if I was like, I’m road raging and I start to like, follow this person, now they’re scared I’m going over the edge. And then if I crash into them, right, so that you can see how, like, how intense do I make it and how much do I put into it? The same is true for positivity, right?
Speaker 1 00:05:40 So Right. If I’m a negative person with one positive thought, maybe it makes me smile for a moment. If I’m an, if I’m a neutral person with one positive thought, maybe it makes me smile a little bit more. And if I’m a happy person putting out happy thoughts all the time, and that’s what’s good, that’s the way you’re gonna live. So, um, I don’t know if that made any sense, but that’s, that’s kind of when you started to talk about, um, the connections and the positivity and putting it out there. That’s kind of what I started to think about too. And it’s karmic, right? So like it does come back to you in a karma kind of way.
Speaker 2 00:06:13 It does. Well the, and also I think the way, the way we see the world or the way that we experience people is says a lot more about us than it does about them and vice versa. So let’s say someone’s bad mouthing you, someone’s saying, oh, well you don’t know what you’re doing or you’re mm-hmm. or they’re bad. You find out that they’re like having like little powwows with their team and they’re like badmouthing you. And it comes out that, you know, so-and-so’s badmouthing you says absolutely nothing about you says everything about the person doing the badmouthing says everything about them. Absolutely. But you have, you have a choice. You have a choice of, uh, putting a buffer between that stimulus of finding that out and your response to it, which can be I’ll get ’em back, or it’s gonna be, I am going to forgive and forget, or I am going to just not pay attention to it and go about my life and feel sorry for you and maybe send some good thoughts to you that whatever caused you to do this type of thing.
Speaker 2 00:07:14 You know? So it, it’s like you get to decide if poison gets dumped on you, you get to decide whether or not you’re gonna drink it. It’s true. And you get to decide whether or not you’re going to dump it into the ocean or if you are going to transmute it. And I really do believe that we have that power of like, whatever shows up in our life, if we have negativity show up in our life, we can take that and say, thank you for the lesson that this is for me. And just like even visualize it as turning into a butterfly and flying away mm-hmm. and just letting it go. Yep. And then it becomes nothing. And that, and it’s almost like a neutralization factor. And we get to do that every single day. Whether it’s somebody in traffic or somebody saying something or um, you know, a a dirty bedroom from a teenager , whatever it’s, or
Speaker 1 00:08:01 Something
Speaker 2 00:08:02 Like can go up in the middle of the night, whatever it is that is just like rage inducing. Not that that’s happened to me at all.
Speaker 1 00:08:09 Oh gosh, me neither. I didn’t get divorced over anything like that. . Oh, did I just say that all I think I did ? No, you’re a hundred percent right though. What we put out into the world is what comes back to us. And sometimes it’s, it’s little waves like, or it’s just like little ripples lapping up at the shore and sometimes it’s a tsunami. So be careful of how much you put out there cuz it’s probably coming back at you just like that. So, absolutely. And I love that idea of making connections. I’ve, I laugh and I make funny jokes in my own head at my own expense sometimes about, like, I’ve often said someday I’m going to to make WP Matchmaker and as a business matchmaker it’s like a networking, like, who do you wanna know? I will introduce you, like, kind of thing.
Speaker 1 00:09:02 Right? Like, and if I don’t know them, I will introduce myself so I can introduce you. Like, just cuz that’s how I feel like when I walk into a word camp, right? Like I’m just like, I don’t know that person. I’m gonna sit next to them at lunch and I’m gonna figure out who they are and I’m gonna be like, hi, I’m Michelle, what do you do with WordPress? You know, and some people sometimes look at you like, who the hell are you lady? And some of these people are like, oh, well this is who I am and this is what I do with WordPress. What do you do Michelle? And you, you make a new friend. Right? So it is kind of funny though when you think about that. It’s like, and it is about making those connections I think, of networking like all the synapses in your brain, right?
Speaker 1 00:09:36 Like it’s making those neural connections with other people and not just a quick, like high across the room, but actually introducing people to make the actual connections that help people get to know one another. And so it’s not just like a I’m gonna throw a spreadsheet together and show people like, I could introduce you, this person, but actually to have an investment in how you do that. It sounds like the guy that you’re talking about wasn’t just like, I made a tool, but like, this is how I want to help you do better. Yeah. And, and it really does come back to you severalfold. I
Speaker 2 00:10:08 Yeah, well it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s understanding people though. It’s understanding the people in your network, you know? Mm-hmm. like there, there’s some people that can be of service to each other and knowing where those connections need to happen so that both people then become uplifted and all you have to do is make that introduction, but as the catalyst for that relationship, you karmically invested, right? Mm-hmm. . And so you karmically get that payback and all you’re doing is making win-wins for people just like, oh, person A, you can scratch person B’s back in this way and I think this would be helpful and person B, would you be interested in meeting this person because, and, and, but just making it really intentional in doing so and, and growing it, it doesn’t ne it grows their network, but by default you’re also growing your network. Absolutely. And you’re growing your investment in those relationships mm-hmm. and I was just Yeah. This is, it’s awesome. So critically important.
Speaker 1 00:11:04 Absolutely. And, and if you’re doing it right, sometimes it’s not even intentional. You just want people to be successful. Yeah. And you’re not even like, I don’t wanna say scheming, that’s the right word. Strategizing, scheming and strategizing are the same thing, but with different intentions. . Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:11:22 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:11:23 It’s not even necessarily about strategizing when you first start getting in, invested in helping others, um, it’s not a strategy to help yourself, but that’s a byproduct. It’s a byproduct. It’s scheming if it’s only if you, it’s only in it for yourself. Right. It’s, it’s, but it’s a byproduct of just wanting to generally be helpful to other people.
Speaker 2 00:11:43 Exactly. Yeah. And it’s just, you know, and there’s tons of people I, I know there’s, there’s a few people in the WordPress space in cadence space especially who I see as valuable, not just a cadence, but valuable to WordPress as a whole mm-hmm. and tho and I think, you know, some of those people too, , I believe
Speaker 1 00:12:03 I do
Speaker 2 00:12:05 And by allocating them, they, that it gives to so many other people. Like there’s one person that I, I know who is, should be on many stages and sharing their, their energy, sharing their inspiration and sharing their knowledge. Mm-hmm. And so to support that person, it’s just, and I’m just realizing I have to do something for this person. Mindful ,
Speaker 1 00:12:32 I’ll help remind you, I dunno what is but talk after us .
Speaker 2 00:12:36 But to to be, it just expands it, it elevates them, but it also, each person that they touch it Yes. It elevates them as well and creates these connections and, and
Speaker 1 00:12:47 The ripple effect in a positive way. Absolutely. And I don’t know about you, but like, when I watch somebody else rise, I, if I had even the tiniest part in their success, I’m so excited for them. I mean, I’m excited for them anyway, don’t get me wrong. Yeah. But if I had any part, like I, you know, you and I both, like, there’s, there’s one person in the community specifically who every time he is on a stage now I wanna thank Kathy and Michelle for encouraging me, blah, blah, blah. Right. And I’m like, dude, you did it on your own. If I had even the tiniest piece, I’m so happy that I was able to help you at all. But you, it was all you. Yeah. We just saw you and said, you should do this and pointed you the right direction, you know? Yeah. But your success is yours. So it has nothing to do with me, but I’m, I’m just glad that I was a part of your journey, basically, is what I’m saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:13:35 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:13:36 Exactly. Um, can I tell you about a time when not realizing how much I put onto the community actually paid me back in such a way that I literally cried for days. happy tears. Tell me happy tears. Yeah. So back in 2020, my, I had a back book air that I was using. I was using it for all the video processing and audio processing for, um, podcasting. And I was also using it for work and it was insufficient for my needs and very, very slow and crashing because it ju you know, you shouldn’t be doing all of that on a MacBook Care. And Allie Neons saw how horribly slow my computer was at work at Miami that year. Mm-hmm. . And she’s like, oh, I, I have like a $50 gift card to Apple if you want. You can have it to like put towards the lip purchase of a new laptop.
Speaker 1 00:14:35 And I had, I was still, I had just left a bad marriage. I didn’t have a enough money to be able to go out and buy myself the laptop I wanted. And I said, thank you. That’s very generous. I just have to save up quite a bit before I’m in a position to do that. But you save your money, you save your gift card. I’ll, I’ll work on getting this done. Unbeknownst to me, she registered get Michelle the new laptop.com , she put gift WP on it and then she went out and like DMed people, like, Hey, if Michelle’s ever had a positive impact on your life, think about contributing to her new laptop. And I was, it was during lockdown when Amanda Gorman knocked, like, she texts me, she’s like, I’m coming over. I’m like, okay. And uh, she comes in and there’s this wrapped package for me to unwrap and it was a MacBook Pro and it had been funded by 43 people in the WordPress community.
Speaker 1 00:15:35 I don’t know, I I I was never given like how much anybody gave cuz it was irrelevant. Right. It was just, and I was given the names of people who said it was okay for me to know who they were. There were some anonymous people, Hey, if you’re listening and, and I wasn’t able to thank you, thank you. But, um, I was given the names of people I was allowed to talk to and I DMed every single one of them independently and thanked them for allowing me to continue to do the work I do. And most of them replied and said, that’s why we did it, because we want you to continue to do the work that you do. Yeah. And at that point it was like, wow, the work I’m doing has an impact on people. Yeah. And, and if you think that that meant that I just stopped there, no.
Speaker 1 00:16:14 Because all the things that I’ve done since then were as a result of being spurred on in such a positive way by the fact that people believed in me enough to gimme the tools to do the things that I do. So Yeah. If you don’t think I burst into tears and like solve all over the place, you’re wrong. Cuz I did, I still get teary about it when I think about it right now I’m teary. Um, but yeah, it was pretty amazing. And it was just another one of those examples of did karma, right? Like you don’t know what you’re doing Yeah. Until somebody says, wow, you’re doing a good job and I wanna support you in that. So Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:47 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:16:48 That’s my example. And thank you to everybody who contributed cuz what a difference that made in my life.
Speaker 2 00:16:54 I remember it and yes. And it, you know, it just comes back to you. Right. And you didn’t have to ask somebody else saw the need, somebody else made it happen. But it was because of your investments in the community that it happened and you didn’t. It’s, I think the universe sometimes is just waiting for us to, to kind of let go and let those things come in. Um, I think all of us, well most of us , most of us are pretty generous creatures and we want to do right by, by people and we wanna do the right thing. And I, I really do feel that a lot of us are just in this waiting period, waiting for, we’re not waiting. The universe is waiting for us, just waiting for us to say, to open up to that deposit or whatever that good thing to happen. Mm-hmm. . And I think it’s a testament to you to, that you were open, you know, that you were open enough to give and open enough to receive and let that happen. So, um,
Speaker 1 00:18:05 Interestingly, one person did reach out to me and flew the surprise a little bit because they were concerned that I was gonna look, that it was gonna look negative on me, that I couldn’t meet my own needs. Oh man. And that it was outing me as somebody who couldn’t afford a laptop. And, and so I said, um, I said, thank you very much. I, uh, am in awe of the fact that this is going on and we’ll talk to the person. And so I did have a little bit of an insight that something might be happening, um, because somebody decided that they they needed to put their negativity into it. But, um, but I still had no idea what was coming and how it was happening and all of those things that just completely overwhelming or that it actually was going to happen, you know? Um, but yeah, it was, it was just overwhelmingly amazing.
Speaker 2 00:18:58 That’s so cool. Yeah. So cool. So I guess the lesson for people from this is where could you very easily just take some in inspired action mm-hmm. to make connections to lift somebody else up. Sometimes it can happen just by like saying, Hey, I noticed this thing you did and that was really amazing. Mm-hmm. . Um, or just checking in with someone and saying, I know there’s a lot going on right now. Are you okay? How are you handling this thing? Yeah. And it can be, it doesn’t take a lot of time to make those kinds of deposits out there in the world in building relationships with people. Um, I think sometimes and
Speaker 1 00:19:39 It makes you feel better, doesn’t it? Doesn’t it make you feel better when you Yeah. Yeah. It’s like when you send a card, I still send physical cards and postcards to people sometimes and I just, cuz I know when I get a postcard or a card of the mail, it’s like, so cool. So like if I have your address, you might see something show up for me every once in a while and like, that’s just so cool, so why not? Right. Like, just do it. That’s so cool. And the nice thing about mailing something is that you’re, you’re not expecting a response, right. Is that a DM where you’re like, somebody’s read it and they leave you on red or something like that? Like Nope, just went to their post office. That’s all.
Speaker 2 00:20:12 Yeah. Yeah. It’s, yeah, I used to do that so much more. I used to have this box of like, you know, fun cards that I’d collect if I was at a store and Ooh, that’s cute. And I’d just buy it and I’d throw it in the box for, but I don’t it, I’ve moved twice. I don’t, it never surfaced again. , it happened to it. It’s,
Speaker 1 00:20:32 It’s probably in the same box as the punch ball. Like things that we don’t actually I have a punch ball. Do you think I’ve ever used a punch ball? No. I was handed down a punch ball. It’s still sitting in my garage. I’ve never ever, I’m never going to, I need, um, check with me next week and make sure that I gave that punch ball away cuz I don’t need that punch ball. .
Speaker 2 00:20:56 I feel you. I got a lot of that stuff too. My, the worst is books my husband used to and it’s so cool to go through them all cuz they, he’s not reading them right now, but I’ll go through them and they’ll have a bookmark from some like random like Boulder, Colorado used bookstore from like the nineties or something and he’d just leave the bookmarks in there. So I feel like I’m sort of unearthing like all of these travels that he used to do. So it’s kind of fun. But I’m telling you, if I have one box of books, I have 40 so many books and I, it’s like some of ’em I’m like okay, I’m listing ’em on Amazon and stuff, but I have so many things we should do a pack rat episode, new
Speaker 1 00:21:34 , worst pack
Speaker 3 00:21:36 Rat next,
Speaker 1 00:21:37 Next week it’ll be show and tell time with a thing that you really don’t need anymore but it’s still on your desk or something. .
Speaker 2 00:21:44 Oh my gosh. Yeah
Speaker 3 00:21:50 I have, I’ve got a lot, oh
Speaker 1 00:21:51 Gosh, what do they call it? Swedish Something like when you actually start to like, I’m in my fifties and I and I’m already like cleaning out my house so that my kid won’t get stuck with all my crap I die someday. Like she doesn’t like that it’s sitting in a closet, get rid of it, you know, kind of thing. Can’t remember what they call it. Swedish sweeping or something like that. But um, yeah, I’ve already started doing that but I still still have so much stuff.
Speaker 3 00:22:16 .
Speaker 2 00:22:17 Yeah. Same. That’s like my big project this year is to lighten the load because I am gonna move eventually and oh my gosh, do we have so much stuff like Yeah, I think it’s Swedish. Sweet. Well my aunt called me once and she’s like, I’m doing my Swedish death cleaning and I have some things to send you. That’s, and
Speaker 1 00:22:34 I’m just like, that’s it. Cleaning don’t
Speaker 2 00:22:36 Want, I don’t want the dead thing.
Speaker 3 00:22:39 Whatever you’re sending me, just
Speaker 1 00:22:42 Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:22:43 I don’t want it. Please.
Speaker 1 00:22:44 I’m always like,
Speaker 3 00:22:48 Enough stuff
Speaker 1 00:22:49 I tell people to go ahead and send it to me and then basically I’ll look through it so I don’t don’t want anything and I’ll get rid of it cuz they wouldn’t have otherwise. I’m like Yeah go ahead and send it to me , I’ll get rid of it for you. I’ll find it. Homes
Speaker 1 00:23:05 So funny. Oh yes, it’s definitely, it’s definitely a good thing to put the positivity out into the world. We all experience the negativity so much. Right. There’s just so much. And I don’t mean negativity isn’t like evil, right? I just mean tough days really difficult times. You know, my stepfather’s been in the hospital like three or four times already this year. He’s there again today. You know who, who knows what’s gonna happen. It’s, it’s not bad as in evil, it’s just, it’s tough. It’s rough. It’s not positive stuff. It’s definitely a negative thing and it’s just things that happen in life. But it, you know, having conversations with people like you and Jeff in my office made me breakfast this morning. Like it’s those things that just make you think, okay, I can get through these and even if terrible things happen I can get through it and, and yeah I may cry and I may have a season of trying to deal with stuff, but, um, the bottom line is that we can face what we need to because we can be positive about the things that aren’t awful in our lives.
Speaker 2 00:24:11 Yeah, definitely. For sure. But what you, what you put your attention on expands. So the more we can put our attention on positive things, the more we’ll have positive things to share. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:24:23 . Exactly. But um, along that line of things expanding, don’t ever put regular dishwashing detergent in your dishwasher cuz it will expand like crazy and foam your whole house. I might have seen episode on TV of that recently. Oh,
Speaker 2 00:24:39 I was gonna say from experience, like did this happen to you?
Speaker 1 00:24:42 This? No, although I did have, so this is my funny story about that. Um, I didn’t have a dishwasher but I had, what did I, no I didn’t have a dishwasher. I had a, um, a garbage disposal and it was Thanksgiving and I had peeled all the potatoes down the garbage disposal cuz I’d never had a problem with that before. I didn’t know that You shouldn’t do that. Right. And my stepmother at the time, um, and my dad were, were over. And so she was just, she was a wonderful person. She was like, well, let me help you clean up and she’s got the water running and she’s like, which one is for the in is for the garbage disposal? And I’m like, oh, that switch over there. She flipped it and my garbage disposal basically blew up all of its contents underneath the sink. And then, oh no, because of the, it was an old, old kitchen, like from the thirties or forties, like everything was interconnected underneath. So like drawers were not protected from drawers. All the drawers that were next to that space, all my silverware, all my ware, like everything was covered in garbage disposal, gunk. It took days to finish, like you’d think you got it all and then be like, I smelled roten potatoes. Like where is it? Where, where are those coming?
Speaker 2 00:25:59 Oh
Speaker 1 00:26:00 No. So, but yeah, that expanded quite quickly. , I don’t know why just popped in my head when you said that,
Speaker 2 00:26:05 That that exact same thing happened multiple times when I was growing up. Oh no. So like the joke, that’s the joke now is like on, on Christmas morning or Thanksgiving morning to text my brother saying getting ready to blow up the garbage disposal. , how about you? Like every, and then, you know, it’s, uh, my family, I don’t know every holiday, it was like some kind of like major drama and it was either, you know, my parents would get into a fight or the cat would get, my mom would leave the Turkey and to fall out and then she’d come down next morning. The
Speaker 3 00:26:42 Cat’s eaten half of it up. like, it’s like there should have been a movie made about it, but that exact same thing multiple times. And it’s like, we didn’t learn this before. I just thought it was like, this is the family tradition.
Speaker 1 00:26:57
Speaker 3 00:26:58 That’s blow up the garbage disposal. That
Speaker 1 00:27:01 Is so funny.
Speaker 3 00:27:02 Yeah. So when I’m peeling potatoes, they go straight in the garbage. Like I don’t put anything down there like crumbs.
Speaker 1 00:27:10 Yeah. Yeah. I’m very, very, I’m very careful about what goes down my nut too. like definitely no potato peels or carrot peels, everything else pretty much if it’s soft. Okay. But nothing that’s super starchy , it just turns into a face . Anyway, funny. The next week when I’ll tell you about the time I was given training bras as a Christmas present and we could talk about we about holiday.
Speaker 3 00:27:41 Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:27:42 Nothing like opening that up under the tree and that’s at a Christmas morning with your two brothers watching .
Speaker 3 00:27:50 Gosh,
Speaker 1 00:27:51 There’s a blog post there somewhere. Like, what was I even training? It’s not like, didn’t do anything. It’s like literally just grow and stick to your body, right? Like, I’m gonna train my breasts to do what?
Speaker 3 00:28:06 It
Speaker 1 00:28:06 Doesn’t make sense.
Speaker 3 00:28:08 Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 00:28:10 I’m tired. I’ve absolutely gotten down the rabbit hole now. So we won’t talk about that next week for sure. But you never know what we’ll talk about . In the meantime, everybody have a wonderful weekend If you’re celebrating Easter, if you’re celebrating Passover, um, you know, happy holidays to you if you’re not, enjoy the weekend anyway. And we’ll see you next week on WP Motivate. Bye Kathy.
Speaker 3 00:28:33 And bye Michelle. Thanks
Speaker 1 00:28:35 .
Speaker 3 00:28:36 This
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