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During this season of giving, Kathy and Michelle think about how empowering it is to be of service to others, as well as allowing other people to be of service to us.

Sometimes you just have to rant. Or vent. Or let all the steam out. It’s good for you! In this episode Michelle and Kathy open up about unrealistic expectations, demands on time, and even failure on their own parts to get all the stuff done. And Michelle even cusses a little. But doesn’t it feel better once you let it all out?

Sometimes life gets a little busy and you have to make extra efforts for self care, for downtime and rejuvenation, and maybe just a little bit of nothing. This show is a lot about nothing, with a meandering conversation about all of the busy happenings in Kathy’s and Michelle’s lives over the last few weeks. Join us as we talk about all of the little nothings that somehow add up to something.

Michelle and Kathy talk about Michelle’s long birthday weekend with friend in Georgia, and how they made their home accessible for her needs. Kathy talks about motivation to work out at Cabo Press. And together they decide that neither of them will probably ever scale Mount Shasta.