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After WordCamp US in National Harbor, Maryland, Kathy and Michelle chat about what we both got out of the event attracting 2,000 of our closest friends to learn, connect, and celebrate together.

Listen in for how you can connect with us at WCUS, where to find us and how to make the most of attending.

While there are many people who make WordPress special, there are a few people whose contributions and rising stars really excite us. Did we drop your name in this episode?

We’re looking for your stories to share on WPMotivate. Listen in this week as Michelle and Kathy describe the project and also talk about their inspirational stories for this week.

Kathy is thinking about how hacker culture and the hacker mindset can be applied to so many areas of life. Michelle shares her thoughts about how knowing how to hack, and where to hack, can be some of the most important value we bring to problems.

How much chaos can two lives hold? Kathy and Michelle are testing the limits so you don’t have to! And through the chaos, they both find not only experiences that create greater awareness, they find ways to be more present in their lives. Holding on to gratitude and reframing your experience more positively can always help. Even in the worst of experiences, there can be positives if you look for them.

Michelle posted a poll on Twitter asking if people are really bothered about the “capital P dangit” in WordPress. The responses were interesting, and everyone had an opinion. Kathy and Michelle both share their thoughts about the camelcase P in WordPress, as well as how we in the WordPress community might be supportive toward important brand recognition. We both agree that the context and intent matters. The conversation turns toward different funny experiences with our own names being misspelled, misheard, or mispronounced. In any case, we land on one key thing: our names, much like Shakespeare’s roses by any other name, don’t matter as much as who we are and how we make the world a better place.

COVID & a dead fridge add some challenges for us, but we work through letting go and moving through them, toward a vision of the future.

Kathy and Michelle have a sneaking suspicion that eventually, we all end up going for freedom… and that freedom starts with WordPress.

“Guilty pleasures” are often acts of self-care for our own mental health. And they can look different to different people.